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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Excellent post, Leo. Thanks!

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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    That extra charge at the pump guys is called a surcharge. yes, Indiana, Kentucky, Virginia do have additional charge at the pump. Indiana is .11 a gallon! Some other states have a weight miles tax due quarterly or monthly. OOIDA has some good information on this subject. check it out >http://ooida.truckmiles.com/page.asp...elPrices.asp:7

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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Leo, Thank you, we are new to this and your info opened my eyes. :)
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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    What he said. ^^^^^

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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Ok guys what you are writing is all true,but as you might have noticed,almost all the states fuel prices are now within just a couple cents of each other
    Myself,I got rid of the heavy foot,and buy fuel in every state,I pretend I only hold 140 gallons of fuel,only useing one of my fuel tanks
    In all the years I've been an owner opp,now is the only time my quarterly fuel tax has been very small
    and as stated before,even though the price at the pump might be low,doesnt mean your getting a deal
    Here's to all those fast trucks running truck stop to truck stop,glad im not paying their fuel bills.
    With my mpg and fuel surcharge,i dont buy fuel anyway,just pay taxes on it
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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Just to make the mud a little clearer, the picture has changed as of today. Today's prices are $2.999 in Ocala and $2.839 in Tipton. That makes the after tax cost slightly less in Georgia. For today the optimum plan would be to purchase at least enough gallons in Fl. to cover the gallons burned in Fl. and to buy at least as many in Ga. as will be burned there. Where to buy the remainder of what the tanks will hold depends on where you go after exiting Ga. You would have to compare where you are going to Fl. to determine which is better. The main point is that this changes on a daily basis and you have to do your research to get the lowest overall cost.

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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Nice piece, Leo. Well researched and well written. Good job. I hope readers appreciate the effort and attention to detail that is required to produce a piece like this. Thank you for your contribution.
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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Claps My hands to LDB... that was very helpful to Me for one has I have never really understood the fuel tax thing when dispatch says I get this amount to do the haul then I normaly just put it in where ever I maybe parked at the time before I head out to do the pick up ..I will pay more att to it now and do the math before I put the fuel in now ...again thanks LDB the light bulb clicked on ...lol

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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Thanks to everyone for the compliments on the post. This is a topic that can be worth hundreds of dollars per year of tax free money but most people don't understand it. My goal is to make it understandable so people can keep their money in their own pocket.

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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Leo,
    Thanks for the info. Since I drive for an O/O I hadn't thought about the tax issue when purchasing fuel, simply the pump price. I will pay more attention now. Also I do want to get my own truck someday so I have a question. When it comes to fuel taxes, is a "D" unit based on the trucks GVWR, or what you can haul. Say I have a truck that GVWR of 32000, but due to size of box the company considers me a "C" unit, will I have to pay fuel taxes?

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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Very useful article. Site is great with this kind of information.


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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Fuel taxes come into play for any truck 26,001 pounds or greater gvw even if the payload capacity were only a dozen pounds.

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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Still learning, after reading these posts I just have one question not meaning to be a smart XEET here but are we not in Expediting? How much time does one have to spend in lines at any discounted fuel stop. Sometimes I see the lines three deep, does one have enough time to worry about putting 35 gallons in GA?















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    RE: Diesel price versus cost, or whose $20 is that

    Great Post but:
    Here's a question that may be moot. With the extra savings that you put in your pocket at the end of the year is it possible that you may put yourself into a higher tax bracket and in the end, end up paying more in taxes? If so then wouldn't all of the time you spent trying to figure out where to fuel be just a waste of time? A waste of time is a waste of money, because time is money. I understand what you are saying and am in question as to whether or not it really is worth it in the end. So when it comes right down to it shouldn't we try to buy as much fuel in each state as we will use there, not necessarily on a per trip basis.
    I guess that it would be determined on a per person or truck basis varying yearly.
    I do appreciate the info in this post and, I may be way off base with this question.

    When you develop a calculator to figure this all out for me let me know, I'll be the first in line to buy one~!!!!!
    Thanks,

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