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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    My thoughts exactly Toronto40. Lets hope for things to pickup pretty soon.

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    I bought a CV 3 weeks ago. The week before that my company was so busy it wasn't funny. My van now has basically sat for 3 weeks in the driveway. 2 separate 450 mile runs, both on fridays with deadhead all the way back. Stayed in Atlanta till
    tuesday, but no luck! I'm glad it's insulated. It will come in handy when I have to start using it for living space!

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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    We were just in Laredo and it looked like a Bolt CV convention there! There had to be more that a dozen Bolt CVs sitting with almost no one else. It was a balmy 110ish degrees too! We dropped and reloaded out within 3 hours.

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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    Isnt it Bolt that has a warehouse in Laredo?I got a run to Knoxville last week,sat till Friday and been getting 140 dollar runs ever since.Went to my home board Sunday,didnt get anything Monday,Tuesday Ft Wayne to Saginaw.Sat there 24 hours,refused a hundred dollar load,because it was 15 hours out.Went home,stayed in service last night. Its too slow in my opinion.Yet I have seen people on the web portal getting 600 mile runs.Wondering how many 100 dollar loads do I have to do,before I get a 600 miler?

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    Yep 350rocket, same here. I had more loads then I knew what to do with until 3 weeks ago, then $100 loads and last Friday a $500 load. I am in Hendersonville, NC trying to figure out next move.

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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    Van freight is just plain slow right now, and there are probably a few different reasons for it. I think more freight is getting consolidated onto larger trucks for one, by design or by carriers who are treating cargo van freight like LTL and running it too cheap for exclusive use. I think more of that is going on that any of them are going to admit. At least I can't think of another reason for the rates some people are running them for right now.

    I know that expediting in a van can be a blast. I did it in a Sprinter for a while and had a ball. I love being able to park wherever I wanted and run around wherever I wanted to go when I was off duty, but I wonder if those days will ever be back. It might be time for the people who want to make any kind of a living in this business to rethink the kind of vehicle they're running in. If freight was good for all vehicle types, I'd take the van in a heartbeat because of the freedom, but right now that freedom doesn't exactly pay the bills.


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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    DRIVING........IT's IN MY BLOOD (JUST ASK MY DAD....HE WAS A TRUCK DRIVER TOO!!!!)

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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesD View Post
    Van freight is just plain slow right now, and there are probably a few different reasons for it. I think more freight is getting consolidated onto larger trucks for one, by design or by carriers who are treating cargo van freight like LTL and running it too cheap for exclusive use. I think more of that is going on that any of them are going to admit. At least I can't think of another reason for the rates some people are running them for right now.

    I know that expediting in a van can be a blast. I did it in a Sprinter for a while and had a ball. I love being able to park wherever I wanted and run around wherever I wanted to go when I was off duty, but I wonder if those days will ever be back. It might be time for the people who want to make any kind of a living in this business to rethink the kind of vehicle they're running in. If freight was good for all vehicle types, I'd take the van in a heartbeat because of the freedom, but right now that freedom doesn't exactly pay the bills.
    I would have to agree with you. Some people are under a false illusion that vans are taking all the straight truck loads.
    Sorry, but just not seeing it. If one looks at a few expedite boards that will likely confirm the findings.
    Much of the low van rates that Charles mentions is in fact going on straights. You throw a handful of those cheap van loads on a straight and you can move with a pretty respectable rate.
    I've been known to go to the well myself on occasion.
    "Double dipping" has been going on for awhile. The more freight slows, the more of it you are going to see.
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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesD View Post
    Van freight is just plain slow right now, and there are probably a few different reasons for it. I think more freight is getting consolidated onto larger trucks for one, by design or by carriers who are treating cargo van freight like LTL and running it too cheap for exclusive use. I think more of that is going on that any of them are going to admit. At least I can't think of another reason for the rates some people are running them for right now.

    I know that expediting in a van can be a blast. I did it in a Sprinter for a while and had a ball. I love being able to park wherever I wanted and run around wherever I wanted to go when I was off duty, but I wonder if those days will ever be back. It might be time for the people who want to make any kind of a living in this business to rethink the kind of vehicle they're running in. If freight was good for all vehicle types, I'd take the van in a heartbeat because of the freedom, but right now that freedom doesn't exactly pay the bills.
    I also agree. I have been wanting to buy a new C/V and have been wanting a Cargo Max but I've been kind of nervous about the economy and fuel prices. They say freight is still strong but the high fuel prices are going to slow the freight down eventually. I am running double with my driver on his van and been lucky knowing some people who have kept us busy. Right now LaGrande Or on the way to Eugene Or and then back to Elgin Or to reload then on back to S.Carolina. Have had two and hoping for a third run just like it. Something has to happen with freight and the fuel prices, can't go on like this.

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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    I don't think anyone is going to say freight is good overall by any means....BUT..as we all know it is more of being in the right place at the right time or being willing to do what you have to do to get what freight is available....

    My last 2 runs since last sunday have been a total of 3055 loaded miles..with 222 dh miles....now both paid over a sprinter rate because they are heavy loads that weren't going in a sprinter and, I offered to DH to the last one on my own dime, 152 miles from San Antonio to Eagle Pass....The company got the load for less then a ST, more then a spinter and I am moving making good money on it and heading home after I drop...

    Now that being said, if i were still in my CV, i wouldn't have gotten either of these loads...so again, it is the carrier, the right equipment and doin what it takes to get to the freight....

    Chances are i am going out of service for a bit to work on the truck next week, I might come back and find it dead, but thats when I'll DH to where the carrier see' s freight and has no coverage....no way I would sit in Laredo with 15 other units...no chance...

    Oh, the last 3 tanks of gas, I have avg'd 16.7 mpg while driving 60 mph....LOL....if thats what it takes, then 6o mph it is....that 2.5-3 mpg improvement over driving 65.....yea I got 15.2 a few times too, so this just might be short lived also....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatorfan068 View Post
    I spoke with a couple owners and they say that van freight is very slow. I thought by now it would pick up.Talked with some drivers and they are sitting 4-6 days.Hard to deadhead with gas over 4 bucks a gallon.
    Cargo freight by van doesn't have to be slow, but it essentially comes down to what you want to transport and how quickly. Van freight might not be your best bet all the time, but sometimes it's a good idea to use it.

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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight

    Quote Originally Posted by tedpass View Post
    Cargo freight by van doesn't have to be slow, but it essentially comes down to what you want to transport and how quickly. Van freight might not be your best bet all the time, but sometimes it's a good idea to use it.
    Well....... There ya have it folks!!!
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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    Took A month off I have been back 2 weeks last week was good this week 1 run 150 miles. This is the first bad week since I started in May.

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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    Quote Originally Posted by davekc View Post
    I would have to agree with you. Some people are under a false illusion that vans are taking all the straight truck loads.
    Sorry, but just not seeing it. If one looks at a few expedite boards that will likely confirm the findings.
    Much of the low van rates that Charles mentions is in fact going on straights. You throw a handful of those cheap van loads on a straight and you can move with a pretty respectable rate.
    I've been known to go to the well myself on occasion.
    "Double dipping" has been going on for awhile. The more freight slows, the more of it you are going to see.
    The low rates on the load boards have to do with how you set up your Tariff rates. When I worked with one friend who has low Tariff rates we could never get cargo van loads for over a buck a mile. Now I am on that same board and getting Nissan loads for 1.15 a mile carrier rate. I am getting 650 mile runs for 800 bucks a pop all day. It all depends on how you set up your pricing. If you start out as a cheap carrier they will always expect you to run loads for cheaper Tariff rates.

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    Re: Slow Cargo Van Freight Toledo-Detroit

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesD View Post
    Van freight is just plain slow right now, and there are probably a few different reasons for it. I think more freight is getting consolidated onto larger trucks for one, by design or by carriers who are treating cargo van freight like LTL and running it too cheap for exclusive use. I think more of that is going on that any of them are going to admit. At least I can't think of another reason for the rates some people are running them for right now.

    I know that expediting in a van can be a blast. I did it in a Sprinter for a while and had a ball. I love being able to park wherever I wanted and run around wherever I wanted to go when I was off duty, but I wonder if those days will ever be back. It might be time for the people who want to make any kind of a living in this business to rethink the kind of vehicle they're running in. If freight was good for all vehicle types, I'd take the van in a heartbeat because of the freedom, but right now that freedom doesn't exactly pay the bills.
    Yeah it is slow for cargo van loads but you can sure as heck make decent amount of money if you look for customers in other areas of the economy. Let the big boys fight over the automotive freight and go after the nooks and crannys for untapped shippers. My new business partner Preacher Rich just landed us a customer out of Florida that ships body parts about 5 loads a month and after all is said and done we are making upwards of 5k in net profits per months off of five cargo van runs. You can find money in this business if you are hungry for it.

    I can't compete with the bigger companies for the "automotive freight" but I will still book automotive freight to keep my drivers busy while seeking freight opportunities from untapped resources. The load baords require constant attention and supervision leaving a lot of carriers stuck in the automotive box. I have been shunned some "been talking to one large load board about seing Chrysler loads for a year now to no avail" so I will go out and create my own customer base and work my way back into the automotive market on a later date in time.
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