Panther & Expeditors Services. Why so slow?

**chefdennis** · 03-17-2010, 09:05 PM

Mel wrote:

but how do I trust any company after them getting screwed after having all those good reviews?

hmmmm...maybe become and O/O yourself??

**piper1** · 03-17-2010, 09:11 PM

If ES is not living up to what is in the written contract...that's getting screwed.

If expediting with ES isn't turning out the way they thought it would.....that's life.

All anybody OWES you is what is written in the contract...the rest is up to you.

If all the critics give a movie rave reviews but you didn't like it...is that getting screwed too?

**Bruno** · 03-17-2010, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Desperado

125.00 to clean truck the man they use only charges 80.00

That should tell you something.

**Bruno** · 03-17-2010, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by piper1

If ES is not living up to what is in the written contract...that's getting screwed.

If expediting with ES isn't turning out the way they thought it would.....that's life.

All anybody OWES you is what is written in the contract...the rest is up to you.

If all the critics give a movie rave reviews but you didn't like it...is that getting screwed too?

Piper I agree with you 100%, You beat me to saying it.

**Moot** · 03-17-2010, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by MelVicker

1- They ARENT turning down runs. They've been to the East coast and back.

2- They asked for info and looked up info about ES before signing and 99% of positive raves.

3- Yeah, they found out when they got there its 35% pay...

Oh and a kicker, I just found out their truck died, AGAIN. Someone told them to let it sit, running, for 45mins and then go. "You will make it". Well, they didnt and they got voice mail at the emergency number... Got an answer finally and they tried blaming it on them not checking the coolant. THEY DID and it was FINE. She said " just keep going. dont lose the run". They made it maybe 1/4mi before the truck stopped.

I know I'm not running with ES now but how do I trust any company after them getting screwed after having all those good reviews?

Lots of they and them's in your posts. Could they be you and you be them? "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together"

**davekc** · 03-17-2010, 10:01 PM

I guess it depends if you/they were promised 35 percent from the beginning, or was it a higher percentage and then changed when you signed on? As mentioned, what is in your contract?
As to the other stuff, any of it could be considered rumor.
As to why someone isn't running could be because of a variety reasons from locations, to qualifications, or refusal to move from a non productive area. Rates on what one will run factors here as well.
Case in point from December, we had a truck arrive in LA and parked next to a red kw who had been there since Wednesday and it was now Friday night. We got sent a 2000 mile load back east at a reduced rate of 1.20. The red truck turned it down because it wasn't his rate. Wasn't a refusal, but certainly was a exercise in stupidity. Company or the drivers policy? Don't know. Just hard to say on some it without all the facts.
And Bruno is correct, we are running very well.

**Bruno** · 03-17-2010, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Moot

Lots of they and them's in your posts. Could they be you and you be them? "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together"

Sounds your on to something Moot.

**MelVicker** · 03-17-2010, 10:09 PM

Well, "they" or "them" is not me. They were told 40% and when they read the contract they saw 35%. They dont trust ES anymore. The lady told them to not tell Panther whats going on with the truck and wanted them to lie to them about it. The people have been rude! They both (team) have CDL-B's and have NOT, I repeat AGAIN, NOT turned down loads and have been moved with empty loads a lot to get into "better" locations.

They and I understand this is a slower time but ES doesn't seem to be caring enough about their drivers or trucks.

**Moot** · 03-17-2010, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by MelVicker

Well, "they" or "them" is not me. They were told 40% and when they read the contract they saw 35%. They dont trust ES anymore. The lady told them to not tell Panther whats going on with the truck and wanted them to lie to them about it. The people have been rude! They both (team) have CDL-B's and have NOT, I repeat AGAIN, NOT turned down loads and have been moved with empty loads a lot to get into "better" locations.

They and I understand this is a slower time but ES doesn't seem to be caring enough about their drivers or trucks.

Yeah, what Bruno said.

**davekc** · 03-17-2010, 10:55 PM

As with any fleet owner regardless of whether it is ES or someone else, if they promise you 40 percent and then magically change it to 35 when you pick up the truck, I think you have your answer.
If they are lying in one place, good chance it is other places as well.

**MelVicker** · 03-17-2010, 11:13 PM

Oh yeah. They lie. I was informed that ES wanted both drivers to lie to Panther about the truck breaking down. I think my friend and her sister (team mate) want to find another company that work with Panther.

**jaminjim** · 03-17-2010, 11:30 PM

Am I the only one thats at least a little surprised at the supposed lies told by ES? Did the Company 'promise' them a dollar amount per mile or did they promise them a percentage? Not saying either way just curious.

**davekc** · 03-17-2010, 11:38 PM

They don't want you to tell Panther the truck is broke down because it likely has a higher board position than their later arriving trucks. When they send a load to the truck that can't run it, they then secure the load on one of their other trucks farther down the list or farther away. With 47 trucks on with the Cat, he is looking for the extra bone to get thrown his way.

**Bruno** · 03-18-2010, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by davekc

They don't want you to tell Panther the truck is broke down because it likely has a higher board position than their later arriving trucks. When they send a load to the truck that can't run it, they then secure the load on one of their other trucks farther down the list or farther away. With 47 trucks on with the Cat, he is looking for the extra bone to get thrown his way.

WoW 47 trucks Dave. I think the trucks they have are over kill to be honest. They can't put but maybe 10,000 lbs on the truck, and with a bigger truck comes a higher fuel cost. They should put some tag axles on the dry box trucks they own and sounds like they need someone the drivers can call 24/7/365.