Thread: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
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01-18-2010, 07:39 PM #16Senior Member
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Re: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
Load bars are covered Layout. There are assumed working load limits for unmarked equipment based on its size, but these are lower than what a properly marked item would be rated at.
http://www.ccmta.ca/english/pdf/carg...r_handbook.pdf
These are North American standards, Ontario is just enforcing it to try and stem the tide of people using cheap off-shore non tested products and general ignorance/don't care. We have had quite a few fatal accidents related to load's shifting in the past 2 years so it is a problem.
If your stuff isn't marked, find out who made it, most reputable firms have info available.
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01-18-2010, 08:29 PM #17
Re: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
Find out who made it, that should be fun. I would hate to have to replace perfectly good stuff just because it is not marked anywhere. Dang gum load bars are not cheap. Any word on just how many trucks they are cutting seals on and opening up?
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01-18-2010, 08:51 PM #18
Re: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
Look on the part that hooks to the e-track, if I remember right you will see the manufacture there.
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01-18-2010, 08:57 PM #19
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01-18-2010, 08:58 PM #20
Re: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
I will check later in the week. We pick up in the morning and are not headed for Canada, this week for sure. Shoot, it the weather they are talking about happens we me be stuck till spring, then I won't worry about it!
Is it just me or does it seem like governments everywhere bought new "regulation enforcement sticks" and are just beating us about the head and shoulders 24/7? Man, I knew that they are short money, but this is getting silly.
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01-18-2010, 11:13 PM #21
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I wouldn't get all stressed over who made the load bars, as long as the load is properly secured - and I'm pretty sure they will know when they see it.
And yes, governments everywhere are glomming onto new penalties - it beats raising taxes, which might cost them their 'jobs', or just cause folks to start asking how they spent the money they already got, eh?
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01-18-2010, 11:45 PM #22
Re: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
These standards have been in place for a long time, my last securement book that I got on paper is 2005 and is almost identical to the one Piper's link.
It even has the same title on some of the pages -
The North American Securement Standards.Greg
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01-19-2010, 07:35 AM #23
Re: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
Just read that pdf. Looking at appendix A (Default WLL's for unmarked tie downs) I see nothing that seems to resemble a load bar.
They have a category called synthetic webbing which I take to be load strap and a 3 inch one is assumed at least 3000 lbs.
From your other post, Layoutshooter, you would be more than fine using 3 straps/bars front and back on a 5k lb load.
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01-19-2010, 07:38 AM #24
Re: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
Yeah, I have been looking at it. Just like most of this stuff it is more about ways in increase revenues than anything else. I will continue to do as I have been doing and as I replace worn equipment I will insure that it has markings on it. If I can find any that does.
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01-19-2010, 07:47 AM #25
Re: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
Looks like with the economy some drivers are using worn out bars and straps and buying cheap stuff....looks like they did not make new rules just enforcing the old rules...bout time...everyone always says to enforce the existing laws and now ya squawk when they do...straight drivers...ain't whinning their cryin...*LOL*
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01-19-2010, 07:48 AM #26
Re: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
Gotta have sumtin to cry about, eh?
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01-21-2010, 07:02 PM #27Senior Member
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Re: New Canada Rule For Tie downs
Most of my loadlock bars had a nice label on them when new (not the one I inherited somehow though). Over the years, however, they've been chafed and worn to the point of illegibility in many cases. I suspect that won't help things if I'm inspected in Canada. Fortunately, I don't go there very often anymore.
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