Companies and Teams

[iceroadtrucker]

Buy a truck. Pay the bills. Then come back here and read your post.

If I bought a truck If I teamed in it, then I would make more than I am now. yes you are right on that.

But splitting it 3 ways and getting paid off the bottom

I make squat. compared to off the top.

Im telling U your right. but my bottom line is what counts
to me.

[cheri1122]

IRT: if your point is that teams make more when the money goes to one household, rather than two, that's hardly a news flash - it's been pointed out many times already.
I make more running solo (driving for an owner) than I would running team with an insignificant other as a codriver, (to coin a new description) That's why I remain solo.

[moose]

I make more running solo (driving for an owner) than I would running team with an insignificant other as a codriver, (to coin a new description) That's why I remain solo.

Yet you will make more running your own business.




Moose.
Greenville ,T.X

[cheri1122]

Moose, I already AM running my own business - owning the truck isn't necessary to do so. I may someday buy a truck, (depending on how much I can save), but whether I do or not, I still run my own business. If not, then no one leased to a carrier does, either, because there are restrictions placed on them as to what they can & cannot do, same as with me.

[moose]

The irony is that you nail it right inn !

this is the catch22 that many O/O had to overcome .
if you stay a company Driver (for the owner !), you cant save enough money (or it take a long time) , for a down payment (you do not need it anymore)
or money set aside to support the business ,
or building up credentials,and equity .
while doing that , you are loosing good better income , you can have by running your own truck .




Moose.

[moose]

I have said that for years ,
Being an O/O is not for everyone , it take a lot to be successful out there .
reading your posts , i don't think you need to stay a Company Driver for too long .
what holding you back Cheri ???



this is just like the artillery division in the military :
yes, they are participating in the act of war , yet they never get to see the action , nor the enemy ...
Moose.

[iceroadtrucker]

IRT: if your point is that teams make more when the money goes to one household, rather than two, that's hardly a news flash - it's been pointed out many times already.
I make more running solo (driving for an owner) than I would running team with an insignificant other as a codriver, (to coin a new description) That's why I remain solo.

Thank you Cheri I rest my case.

No more Co drivers that cant do the job

No more One Eyed Willies with no sleep.

No more gray hair worring if Im going to get that team run to put the money on the table.

U can see the writting on the wall

YUP

CONISEDER ME GONE

now how about a snack got a cat??

ALF

[wallytrucker1]

IRT: if your point is that teams make more when the money goes to one household, rather than two, that's hardly a news flash - it's been pointed out many times already.
I make more running solo (driving for an owner) than I would running team with an insignificant other as a codriver, (to coin a new description) That's why I remain solo.

Cheri: All this time I thought you were running single because you hadn't met me yet...lol.

[moose]

now how about a snack got a cat??

ALF

We miss Him !!!



Moose.
Ft.Worth

[cheri1122]

Cheri: All this time I thought you were running single because you hadn't met me yet...lol.

All this time, I thought you were married, lol.
Every time I meet "Mr Right", his first name is Always, sigh.

[Bruno]

CONISEDER ME GONE

now how about a snack got a cat??

ALF

Where you going? Remember some Cats can leave big bite holes in you.

[iceroadtrucker]

Buy a truck. Pay the bills. Then come back here and read your post.

Listen man I done this for 3 years, No biggee. I see all the bills for the truck.

The guy that I drive for He knows. oh well.

He can get some one else to make his money.

I not going to play the fool no more.

Gave him enough This I have.

There are more fish in the Sea.

[BigBusBob]

That was interesting, you can always tell a Newbie. I have to say by the posts he's put up he's so wet behind the ears I was about to toss him a towel.

I prefer running solo myself... but it is a well known fact that teams make more - Dude, if you read this - here's the deal (bare in mind I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert or rocket scientist - but I got 10 years in the transportation biz in trucks and busses (private, passenger, big co.'s, small co.'s, and runnin' for O/O's as well.).

Ok, here we go to the J bird on Sesame Street:

Lets say you drive for an owner. Lets also say you run team with the owner.
It doesn't even have to be the owner. it can be another driver.

Now, the truck has to have fuel to go. Who pays for that? The owner?
well there's 20% of the trucks revenue. Otherwise it's 20% of one of the team drivers.

What about tolls? You're going to be on some toll roads at some point.
There's money out the window. Don't forget scale tickets.

Is this truck paid for? What? probably not?? then there's money out the window too.

Lets say you're on a 60/40 split where owner pays fuel, and the 2 team drivers get 20% each... if you're kickin' out 2,000 miles a week - even 1,500 miles a week - that's still a good chunk... and you're more than likely (hopefully) going to be chasing after 2,500 plus miles (maybe even 3,000+/-) per each driver every week running as a team.

The owner isn't going to be making a killing off of the truck, he'll be paying for fuel, maybe tolls, truck payments, paperwork processing, and oh ya, did I forget to mention truck Insurance? What about workers comp. Insurance for the 2 Expert Operators in his/her truck?

Lets not forget too, that the truck you drive - it might break every month or 2 -why? after all, you're only putting 16,000 miles a month on it. If your sleepy partner is able to stay awake you might break 22,000 plus miles in a month. As a solo you'd be lucky to hit 12,000 miles a month. Maybe a bit more, but not much. The team truck would still have you beat if sleepy is worth even 1/2 his weight in the hot seat.

Simply put, Teams will beat a solo driver in miles and revenue. As a solo, unless you can run 22 to 24 Thousand miles a month, you won't make as much as a team. As a solo, VERY illegally and very VERY sleep deprived the most miles you could count on in a month would maybe be 14,500 miles in a month as a solo. The team truck would still have you beat.

Elmo will now talk about dispatchers and load planners and brokers...

Basically, all 3 of them would WANT to Seek a team to knock out a 600 mile load over a solo. Even 700 mile loads can be lost to a team. Even 500 mile loads can be lost to a team. Teams don't have the sleep issue on the log book like a solo does. Also, if a team is available, or even on it's way into an area and will be available - they'll most likely get the load before a solo who's fresh off their 10 hours.

IceRoad, I'd ask how much time you have driving, but I'd be nuts to do that.
You have made it Very obvious to those who have the experience on EO that you really don't have all that much time under your belt.

I have a suggestion. Run solo and see how rich you become.
Then find a driver who loves to drive a truck and run team for just 3 months.
Then come back on here and let us all know how it worked out for you.

I heard that JB Hunt is hiring.

BigBBob.
if it don't shine, it ain't mine.

[iceroadtrucker]

That was interesting, you can always tell a Newbie. I have to say by the posts he's put up he's so wet behind the ears I was about to toss him a towel.

I prefer running solo myself... but it is a well known fact that teams make more - Dude, if you read this - here's the deal (bare in mind I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert or rocket scientist - but I got 10 years in the transportation biz in trucks and busses (private, passenger, big co.'s, small co.'s, and runnin' for O/O's as well.).

Ok, here we go to the J bird on Sesame Street:

Lets say you drive for an owner. Lets also say you run team with the owner.
It doesn't even have to be the owner. it can be another driver.

Now, the truck has to have fuel to go. Who pays for that? The owner?
well there's 20% of the trucks revenue. Otherwise it's 20% of one of the team drivers.

What about tolls? You're going to be on some toll roads at some point.
There's money out the window. Don't forget scale tickets.

Is this truck paid for? What? probably not?? then there's money out the window too.

Lets say you're on a 60/40 split where owner pays fuel, and the 2 team drivers get 20% each... if you're kickin' out 2,000 miles a week - even 1,500 miles a week - that's still a good chunk... and you're more than likely (hopefully) going to be chasing after 2,500 plus miles (maybe even 3,000+/-) per each driver every week running as a team.

The owner isn't going to be making a killing off of the truck, he'll be paying for fuel, maybe tolls, truck payments, paperwork processing, and oh ya, did I forget to mention truck Insurance? What about workers comp. Insurance for the 2 Expert Operators in his/her truck?

Lets not forget too, that the truck you drive - it might break every month or 2 -why? after all, you're only putting 16,000 miles a month on it. If your sleepy partner is able to stay awake you might break 22,000 plus miles in a month. As a solo you'd be lucky to hit 12,000 miles a month. Maybe a bit more, but not much. The team truck would still have you beat if sleepy is worth even 1/2 his weight in the hot seat.

Simply put, Teams will beat a solo driver in miles and revenue. As a solo, unless you can run 22 to 24 Thousand miles a month, you won't make as much as a team. As a solo, VERY illegally and very VERY sleep deprived the most miles you could count on in a month would maybe be 14,500 miles in a month as a solo. The team truck would still have you beat.

Elmo will now talk about dispatchers and load planners and brokers...

Basically, all 3 of them would WANT to Seek a team to knock out a 600 mile load over a solo. Even 700 mile loads can be lost to a team. Even 500 mile loads can be lost to a team. Teams don't have the sleep issue on the log book like a solo does. Also, if a team is available, or even on it's way into an area and will be available - they'll most likely get the load before a solo who's fresh off their 10 hours.

IceRoad, I'd ask how much time you have driving, but I'd be nuts to do that.
You have made it Very obvious to those who have the experience on EO that you really don't have all that much time under your belt.

I have a suggestion. Run solo and see how rich you become.
Then find a driver who loves to drive a truck and run team for just 3 months.
Then come back on here and let us all know how it worked out for you.

I heard that JB Hunt is hiring.

BigBBob.
if it don't shine, it ain't mine.

JB Is Hiring

BUT SO IS JIMMY

[cheri1122]

BBB, it's good to see you posting again, you talk sense, as always.
I totally agree that a team will make more money than a solo, but that's not the one & only issue involved, for me. I don't have, and can't beg, borrow, or steal, a codriver who is my partner both on & off the job - and therefore, I'm not willing to drive team. Been there, done that, and the disadvantages aren't worth the increased income, IMO.
I'd rather pocket a bit less cash, and retain my sanity, (not to mention the sunny disposition, lol), without a doubt.