[TeamCaffee]

Moot
Bob has to keep the slow moving triangle on the back of the truck polished often to keep us from getting run over! Those of us that listen to Kevin Rutherford on XM keep trying to get him to get a Kevin Cruisen Triangle for us slow ones due to listening to him!

Nightcreacher all I can see is you running like the devil is after you if you thought a women was going to get serious! Hope you are staying busy and staying out of trouble.

[iceroadtrucker]

Well to each is her or his own for that matter. Now U got to admit to this super Singles on a tractor not a good a Idea for Ice Roads Snow roads Mud Roads or for that matter Wet pavement roads. The Tractor will get loose as a goose so to speak. It dont matter how much fuel U be saven withem.
First and formost is safety.
I wouldnt use em if my life depended on em on the mud snow or ice or wet roads for that matter. Maybe if your going to stay in the south and be a fare weather driver then go ahead and get them. Yes u can save monie thats a true statement but using them in the above conditions not a smart thing to do. Like I said the Tractor will get loose as a goose so to speak and U just wont get the traction as U have running dullies. But dont take my word for it ask the ones that Drive in them climates and conditions then U decide for your self. Let no one make that decision for you. Now today while im here at the Petero in Bordentown I ran across a guy who taken the wheels off his Trailer and putting them on his tractor. What he did was buy the super singles for his tractor then put his orginal drives on his trailer rims and all. well now his swaping going to put the Supers on his Trailer and the Orginal drives back on his Tractor I asked him why he said the above Loose as a goose in the Mud Snow Ice and Rain. Interesting. Well any way do what U must but realy think about it is it realy worth the monie new rims and the alike and carrying a special spare just in case to find out U wont like em.
U decide for your self.
have a nice day.

[ATeam]

Originally Posted by bludragon13

I'm wondering if the super single tires on a tandem axel expediter truck would qualify ,in the south , to use the 6 wheel or less lanes. That could be an advantage to those with the super single tandems that they would not have if they had 10 tires on the truck.

Six wheels on the truck are six wheels. Ten wheels on the truck are ten wheels. If you have six wheels on the truck, I would think it would be legal to use the six-wheel-or-less lanes. Do I know this conclusively? No, but if an officer of the law disagrees and cites you, I do not believe it would be hard to prove in court that six wheels are six wheels.

What I wonder is, what real difference does it make? We have driven through Atlanta many times with ten wheels and never once found ourselves longing to drive in the six-wheel lanes. How is it an advantage?

And about that 55 mph in California thing, TeamCaffe is not alone. Diane and I never drive faster than 55 mph there.

[RLENT]

Originally Posted by P51bombay

I see that Mickey Thompson Performance Tires & Wheels still makes this type of tire and the wheels are availble but it is intended as a drag tire and they don't list the load range

Yeah ..... but one things for sure - you wouldn't have to worry about the speed rating .....

[Broompilot]

Blue Dragon TALK ABOUT QUARLESOM. And yes they do drive 55, anyone else exceeding that it any commercial truck is either being paid hopefully extra, or they are just stupid. One more reason just maybee, THEY AINT PAYING THE FUEL TAB.

So Team C, what is that AVG MPG up to now?

[greg334]

Originally Posted by ATeam

What I wonder is, what real difference does it make? We have driven through Atlanta many times with ten wheels and never once found ourselves longing to drive in the six-wheel lanes. How is it an advantage?

And about that 55 mph in California thing, TeamCaffe is not alone. Diane and I never drive faster than 55 mph there.

I think he is talking about when tractors and RVing expediting units being told they have to take a loop around a city instead of going through it.

Like Atalanta, the last time I was there, six wheel (meaning actual tires per Atlanta PD) were not allowed through the downtown I-75 corridor.

[mjolnir131]

Originally Posted by TeamCaffee

In California it does not matter really as anything over 55 mph kills your fuel mileage so why bother. .

when i run at 55 my MPG is around 8.4 when i'm running at 63-64 it's almost 11.how is your truck set up that it's that diffent i am running an 08 freightliner "C" truck 6 tires(two axels) it has mersadies benz power plant and when i get below 60 MPHs you can just watch the MPG drop

in truth 45-55 mph is when i get my worst milage

[bludragon13]

Originally Posted by ATeam

Six wheels on the truck are six wheels. Ten wheels on the truck are ten wheels. If you have six wheels on the truck, I would think it would be legal to use the six-wheel-or-less lanes. Do I know this conclusively? No, but if an officer of the law disagrees and cites you, I do not believe it would be hard to prove in court that six wheels are six wheels.

What I wonder is, what real difference does it make? We have driven through Atlanta many times with ten wheels and never once found ourselves longing to drive in the six-wheel lanes. How is it an advantage?

And about that 55 mph in California thing, TeamCaffe is not alone. Diane and I never drive faster than 55 mph there.

Phil, haven't you ever been caught in that Atlanta rush hour jam and wished you could move with the outside lanes? this was a simple question as in" I was just wondering" not anything else and the comparison of speeds in CA was pointing out the 3 axel law in CA, nothing else , beside your a 3 axel truck so of course you could not drive over 55mph even if you wanted to without going a foul of the law.

[bludragon13]

Originally Posted by mjolnir131

when i run at 55 my MPG is around 8.4 when i'm running at 63-64 it's almost 11.how is your truck set up that it's that diffent i am running an 08 freightliner "C" truck 6 tires(two axels) it has mersadies benz power plant and when i get below 60 MPHs you can just watch the MPG drop

in truth 45-55 mph is when i get my worst milage

This is also our experience,58-62 mph gives us the best mpg around 10.466 from the fuel tax reports.

[bludragon13]

Originally Posted by Broompilot

Blue Dragon TALK ABOUT QUARLESOM. And yes they do drive 55, anyone else exceeding that it any commercial truck is either being paid hopefully extra, or they are just stupid. One more reason just maybee, THEY AINT PAYING THE FUEL TAB.

So Team C, what is that AVG MPG up to now?

broom, we run 58-to 62 mph,our mpg is 10.466 last quarter,was running a consistant 55 to 58 and mpg was 9.803, so if you believe I'm stupid then my response is that making assumptions as you did,shows your tendency toward having foot in mouth disease, and I always pay the fuel tab,truck payments and putting some away for the future.also please don't edit your spelling I enjoy some one who does the best that they can do at all times.

[ATeam]

Originally Posted by bludragon13

Phil, haven't you ever been caught in that Atlanta rush hour jam and wished you could move with the outside lanes?

Caught in the Atlanta rush hour? Yes, many times. Wished to move to the outside lanes? No.

When the roads are jammed up I don't see much difference between the lanes (except the number one lane which we avoid because entering and exiting cars slow that lane down and try to nose their way in).

In any city, our rush hour strategy is to avoid lane changes as much as possible, settle into the number two lane and roll along as traffic permits.

We are not in a race to make better time than others or get through quickly. If we are in a hurry to do anything it is to be safe. Traffic delays are reported to dispatch. Delivery time gets bumped, and we roll calmly and safely along. Lane changes are avoided to minimize fender bender opportunities. Attitude and emotions are managed to avoid stupid mistakes.

With a bathroom and the comforts of home in the truck, we are just as functional on I-285 in Atlanta at 5:00 p.m. as we are on I-40 in Arizona at 11:00 a.m. Rush hours end when they want to end, not when we want them to. There is little point in trying to force your way through only to gain a few minutes over the other guy when you do. The load still gets delivered on time and we get paid the same.

Stay in your lane and go with the flow. That's our rush hour strategy.

Part of the reason we do not wish to run in the outside lanes is we knowlingly spec'ed the truck in a way that would prohibit us from legally doing so. Knowing that 10 wheels would keep us out of certain outside lanes, we spec'ed 10 wheels anyway, because for our needs, the advantages of 10 wheels trumped the disadvantages.

That said, I believe the "no trucks in left lane" laws are ill-considered. "Through trucks use left lane" would be better. It would make it easier for four-wheelers, most of which are local, to get on and off the freeway. Cramming trucks into the right lanes creates rolling roadblocks that make entering and exiting the freeway more difficult.

[Broompilot]

I am gona go ahead and be KNOW IT ALL ON THIS SUBJECT: Right T.C. as I pointed out the other night. So here it goes.

A Team you got it in your schedule to go defend the ticket, HAVE AT IT. Poor judgment call on your part and LOUSEY commonsense.

As you answered in some of your earlier post about 6 wheels means this and that yeah OK. Here is the FACT in N.C.

It does not state TIRES. It states AXLES any trucks over 3 axles right two lanes. So push your theory here in the Tar Heel and your ARSE is GRASS PERIOD. And I am sure the Georgia Patrol will say something like this:

SEE YA IN COURT SMART ALEX. or otherwise pay the FINE. commonsense Drivers, just use commonsense and stay away from the LAW. It will cost you much less in $ and aggrivation.

Hows that for just plain commonsense?

[piper1]

Originally Posted by mjolnir131

when i run at 55 my MPG is around 8.4 when i'm running at 63-64 it's almost 11.how is your truck set up that it's that diffent i am running an 08 freightliner "C" truck 6 tires(two axels) it has mersadies benz power plant and when i get below 60 MPHs you can just watch the MPG drop

in truth 45-55 mph is when i get my worst milage

Likely has a lot to do with how your truck is geared and what transmission you have. If you keep the rpm in the 1100 to 1500 range slower will always get better fuel economy its just an aerodynamic fact. Team C definitely knows how to get the most from every drop of fuel!