Hows the the new FedEx CC FSC program working for

**Bugsy Siegel** · 10-11-2006, 03:53 PM

Fedex keeping *any* of the FSC sounds like a ripoff for drivers. Tolls and such should have already been figured into the base rate as they don't change frequently.

Just my $.02

**blacktiger** · 10-11-2006, 07:53 PM

I hear loud laughing, and it isn't from the drivers.

George

**cowboyz** · 10-18-2006, 12:09 PM

Im kinda wondering the same thing, are people accepting it like it is? or is it a boiling furnice? It seems to have died down, is all well with contractors? or a new beginning for contractors?

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Or you'll fall for anything!!

guest · 10-18-2006, 02:06 PM

It hasn't died down about the FSC program. I think as long as the other company's use it as a selling point to try to pull driver's away from FedEx it will be talked about. We pay 100% of the FSC FEDEX don't and thier going to keep telling people that until FedEx pay's the O/O 100% again. It's a great way to get trucks not to come on with FedEx. I'm sorry to say.

Drive Safe
David Mayfield
O/O since 1/27/95

**cowboyz** · 10-18-2006, 02:41 PM

Does this mean Fedex is getting rid of some contractors? More trucks than freight? If contractors leave, depending on the type of unit(s) they take with them, want this allow the compitition to pick up some of Fedex's customers? Im not real smart but I don't think this sounds just right, Where will the stock prices be when is all said and done. What will FECC do to get the business, and the loyal contractors back, That helped put Fedex where it is today. This is all like a big nightmare, who really wins in the end? Its a vicious cycle. I wonder what my part is in all of this??????

Just keeping my side of the street clean.

guest · 10-18-2006, 03:16 PM

Well, I hope that this doesn't happeen, time will tell. When good contractors leave it has an effect everyone. When you lose trucks and the fleet gets smaller, then the customer calls and you don't have trucks to service them so they call someone else.

Drive Safe
David Mayfield
O/O since 1/27/95

**ATeam** · 10-18-2006, 04:14 PM

cowboyz,

Would you be so kind as to introduce yourself and your expediting background to readers? I see you have less than 5 posts to your credit and seem preoccupied with stiring the FedEx pot; offering a lot of emotive questions but little else. Who are you in real life?

**ATeam** · 10-18-2006, 04:18 PM

I posted the following a few days ago in another thread. It seem appropriate here too.

The new FedEx pay schedule went into effect September 18th. Because Diane and I are predispatched through Friday, October 20th (and if we assume no loads cancel), we can evaluate our first month under the new FedEx pay schedule with real numbers.
I looked at three 30-day periods; the current 30 days, September 18 to October 17, 2006 (new schedule); month ago 30 days, August 18 to September 17, 2006 (old schedule); and year-ago 30 days, September 18 to October 17, 2005 (old schedule).

In these three time periods, our run counts were about the same, miles (loaded and deadhead combined) are higher under the new schedule, gross revenue is higher under the new schedule, and the pay per mile is lower under the new schedule (owing more to deadhead decisions we made for personal reasons than anything else).

Regarding fuel, diesel was $3.15 a year ago (national average, 10/10/05), and $2.51 now (10/09/06). Thus, while fuel came down (and the surcharge with it), our revenue went up.

What conclusions can Diane and I draw from the numbers at this point?

None at all.

It is too early to tell from the numbers how the new schedule will affect us in the long run. Our decision to go out of service for a day to sleep, or to pass up a load so we can finish a family visit, or to deadhead a great distance for a load we would otherwise decline because we want to go the direction that freight is going, affects our numbers as much as the new schedule does.

After running several months under the new schedule, such variables will blend together and lose their ability to weight the numbers one way or another. For now, our numbers give us no reason to be unhappy with the new schedule or consider a change of carriers.

I know there is a lot of feeling out there about what FedEx should do or not do, what they should or should not care about, and how executives there should or should not feel about truck drivers. Diane and I are not having a "should" conversation. We're having a numbers conversation. As real-world numerical results become available, we will base our decisions on them.

Thirty days into the new schedule, it is so-far, so-good for us. Thus, it has not even entered our mind to incur the down time and expense of a carrier change. We have no reason to risk a carrier change that could very easily become a jump from the frying pan into the fire.

It is entirely possible that other folks would have different numbers. Indeed, new schedule or old, it is common for similar trucks to have greatly-varying numbers over short periods of time.

I recommend two things:

A. Base your decisons on your numbers, not on how you feel.

B. Give the numbers time to develop and time for the variables to fade in significance. One month of numbers under the new schedule is not enough to tell the story.

**cowboyz** · 10-18-2006, 04:29 PM

So whats going to happen to the contractors that didn't sign the new lease? Because they didn't agree with it, or they saw how much money would be lost on the contractors bottom line.When I bought this truck, the FSC under the new agreement would have lost 1480.00, or should I say the diffrence was -1480.00 either way you look at it, I would have been out 1480.00. now this was for just 1 month, w/1 truck,now where is all that money going? And whats the long term effect. I wonder how many contractors are keeping tabs on there bottom line, (New program vs Old) And if they are they must have
some deeeeeep pockets.

keeping it in today

**cowboyz** · 10-18-2006, 04:44 PM

OOPS sorry, I did not know you had to have x amount of post to ask questions, You might say im a contractor who is concerned with the future of my business. And how many post I have has nothing to do with that. But thanks for the info its been helpful. This is one of the things people seem not to want to talk about... So be it.

How to handle the effect?

**davekc** · 10-18-2006, 10:21 PM

>cowboyz,
>
>Would you be so kind as to introduce yourself and your
>expediting background to readers? I see you have less than 5
>posts to your credit and seem preoccupied with stiring the
>FedEx pot; offering a lot of emotive questions but little
>else. Who are you in real life?
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I think the fact that he is in a reefer and has been offered 3 loads that all pay $1.15 might have something to do with it. Especially since he has been sitting since Monday in a busy freight area.

Davekc
owner
22 years
PantherII
EO moderator

**cowboyz** · 10-19-2006, 12:54 AM

Friends, I must have come across wrong today. I am the kind of person that asks alot of questions until I get answers. I promise I am not trying to stir the Fedex pot, I am greatful to have my job. And im not bashing any company, really, its all about the money for all of us. I know im not out here just to be out here. I have a family just like you do. I am sure all the roumors (GOOD & BAD) will be worked out in time. But as for me,...ME. the numbers are telling the truth. Numbers don't lie. But if I offended anyone today, I promise that was not my intention. I wish everyone well, and many loads for years to come. And thank everyone for there input

A soul thats been misunderstood

**mcbride** · 10-19-2006, 02:02 AM

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cowboyz,
Would you be so kind as to introduce yourself and your expediting background to readers? I see you have less than 5 posts to your credit and seem preoccupied with stiring the FedEx pot; offering a lot of emotive questions but little else. Who are you in real life?

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Full-time Expediter, Owner-Operator with wife Diane
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Are you kidding me? Are you fricken kidding me?!

Yes, why isn't it established, here and now, what the criterion is for posting in this forum? Why should just anyone get to post here without FIRST having fulfilled certain decisive factors. Afterall, this is not a place for people with a mere 5 posts to contribute to! What contributions could he/she possibly have! Perhaps the "powers that be" should publish the acceptable levels of expediting experience one must have before posting here. Hmm let's see, if the criteria were based on experience acquired on a yearly basis...

Amazing....absolutely amazing.....

-mcbride-
--What goes around comes around--

**Doggie Daddy** · 10-19-2006, 10:22 AM

Yeah,what she said! With my lowly 4 years of experience,they will only let me post 1/5 of what they allow Rich M to post. :-(

**cowboyz** · 10-19-2006, 10:55 AM

OK, Here we go again. Where is written that you have to have 358 posts to ask questions on this forum? And please tell me how you come to get 358 posts without posting them. I belive everyone here started with 1 post. And please tell me what is the acceptable levels of expediting and who decides the level? Come on, this is a forum. Its amazing to me how you can ask a mere few questions and suddenly you are judged by your posts.Who are you to judge me OR my character?
Get real this is a forum to gain knowledge,info,and fellowship. I think you must ask questions to do the above. Look back at the topic,
many have responded, some with no more posts than I. And yes this is absolutely amazing, that if you can read the topic, you will see it does not say, YOU MUST HAVE 358 POSTS TO RESPOND so please...
And as for the criteria, Its not based on yearly experience.
So Mcbride, with all due respect, Hows the NEW FSC working for you?

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