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greg334 · 07-17-2008, 09:59 PM

Hey Cheri,

The problem is Deming tried to sell them these ideas when their market share was like 55 plus % and they already knew what was going to happen but ignored all of it.

The other problems is it is not far fetched to blame the UAW for these problems, they have stood in the way of flexible manufacturing, they have stood in the way of automation and they have had a hand in management for almost 30 years, so they as a key component are to blame for a number of set backs in the industry.

You know there is a plant in this state owned by a Japaneses company who can change their entire assembly line over in a few hours were Ford still has to take weeks. They can't use the labor at the Ford plant to keep the people busy cleaning, painting or even helping with the change over because of the Union.

They outlived their usefulness as a collective force a long time ago, like in the 80's. Working in the plants is not like it was in the 30's where you worked or you found a another job - where you worked hard. Now it is no where like it was, you don't have to worry about the supervisor firing you for taking a pee and it has gone so far as to pay them not to work, they call it a JOBS BANK where they sit around waiting for an opening in a plant. We still have some layoff benefits. I can tell you that a few not only get unemployment but a lot of things from the state that they don't need.

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greg334 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redford, MI Rating: Posts: 7,065	Re: VW to build in Tennessee Hey Cheri, The problem is Deming tried to sell them these ideas when their market share was like 55 plus % and they already knew what was going to happen but ignored all of it. The other problems is it is not far fetched to blame the UAW for these problems, they have stood in the way of flexible manufacturing, they have stood in the way of automation and they have had a hand in management for almost 30 years, so they as a key component are to blame for a number of set backs in the industry. You know there is a plant in this state owned by a Japaneses company who can change their entire assembly line over in a few hours were Ford still has to take weeks. They can't use the labor at the Ford plant to keep the people busy cleaning, painting or even helping with the change over because of the Union. They outlived their usefulness as a collective force a long time ago, like in the 80's. Working in the plants is not like it was in the 30's where you worked or you found a another job - where you worked hard. Now it is no where like it was, you don't have to worry about the supervisor firing you for taking a pee and it has gone so far as to pay them not to work, they call it a JOBS BANK where they sit around waiting for an opening in a plant. We still have some layoff benefits. I can tell you that a few not only get unemployment but a lot of things from the state that they don't need. __________________ Greg Sort of independent wealthy - I followed the Million Dollar plan 1999 Freightliner FL70 Professional International Traveler Politics is a game of engagement In order for you to change something you don’t like, to change something for the betterment of your country or to change just for the need of change, you must be involved, engaged and vocal. So don’t blame me if Congress passes laws that affect you, your family or your rights Be Engaged!